Discussion in 'Shafts' started by jamie_garrett, Oct 2, 2014.
I'm buying it today but that's a spicy meatball at $649.
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Mans game Ben!
You will be in some elite company with guys who own drivers worth more than their cars.
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This is a big week for Ben. Sweet new ride and sweet new fitted driver. He really set the bar high for the rest of the year.
He does have a PT cruiser so the driver puts him in the super elite
I think I missed this originally. Oddly, I tend to have a slight hang out right with my wedges. 4-PW are pretty much straight. I debated about S+, too. I'm hitting those irons so well though I'm hesitant to mess with anything but got dang I miss the PX feel.
I really love my i200 irons. The KBS Tours just feel a little loose even though I hit them great. I'd like something that gets up to about the same height (although if it were more of a piercing rise to peak height it wouldn't hurt my feelings) and maybe a touch less spin. I play hard greens and leave craters and get basically no roll. I'm thinking PX LZ would be my huckleberry. Any other suggestions?
(Or maybe I just won't mess with it since I hit these well).
I played the PX LZ shafts for a few rounds last year and they launched way too high for me. I can't say that I lost distance but I wanted something that flighted down a bit lower.
When I went back to the Srixon 765s I got them with the Nippon Modus Tour 105 shafts sight unseen. I previously had the KBS Tour V110 but didn't love the feel. I can't rave enough about the Modus 105 shafts. Compared to the KBS they are night and day different. Very smooth feeling yet I get the piercing, mid trajectory that I was looking for.
I tried the Modus 120 shafts, too, but went with the 105 because I like a little less weight. If you like the KBS Tour weight then I'd try out the Modus 120 shafts.
Got dang it I think you might be write. The 120s play soft, correct?
I think the KBS Tour 120 do play a tad softer than DG300s. At least for me, that's how it feels.
The Modus 120 intrigue me also.
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The modus 120 play true to flex. The bend profile makes it seem soft, I assure you they're just fine
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Gio nailed it. These are some of the softest feeling steel shafts I think I've ever played, if that makes sense. Reminds me of how the Graphite Design Tour AD shafts feel.
So I was told to get a similar shaft in my M2 as to what I've got in the XR. It is a S+ 70 stiff. Do what is better? I'm looking at something like Diamana B, Diamana S+, Rogue Black, UST Chrome or VTS. What I don't know is do I stay in 70 stiff range or go 60 xstiff? If my miss on bad swings is to throw from the top, would the heavier shaft in theory kinda slow my hands down?
Had my first round today with my Graphite Design Tour AD TP6x. What an awesome feeling shaft. Firm yet smooth...boing!!!
To be honest, my swing is having some issues lately but having played the KK Tini yesterday to compare to I know that this is going to prove awesome for me. The launch is higher. My misses are closer to target. What can I complain about? I really want a similar feel for my fairways. Hopefully I can get a round in this week to try some more.
Was the KK also XStiff?
I'm playing the KK Tini 60 Stiff in my Epic right now and I like how it has performed but I'm thinking about tinkering with a GD TP shaft, as well. Back when I played the AD DI 6 I had that in Stiff and it felt a tad 'loose'. Not whippy but maybe like I could have gone to X-Stiff and been fine. Wondering if I could do the same in the TP, as well or if I need to stay in a Stiff flex.
Driver SS is around 103-105 mph.
I have a KK Tini Stiff and a KK Dual Core xstiff. The Dual Core can launch a little low if I'm not on it with my swing but dispersion is better between the two.
I haven't swung a DI in years but the TP should be fine for you, I'd say. Just waggling it, I'd say it feels pretty stiff but in the swing it just feels right and I'm getting more carry (based on landmark comparison on my normal course, I don't have LM #s). My drives are usually 270-290 range (some up to 300) and 7 iron is 185 if that helps.
I'm thinking I want a DI7x for my 3 wood.
So if you want a little higher ball flight over KK Tini I'd say make the TP xstiff your huckleberry. I wouldn't be concerned at all and think you'll have better dispersion over stiff.
So why would I hook a Dynamic Gold s300 (712u 3 iron) and hit a straight-ish shot with KBS Tour 120 stiff? I much prefer the feel of the s300. Counterbalance blows. Gonna have to change the KBS to something else. Maybe Dynamic Gold, Modus 120 or PX LZ.
DG S300 plays softer than kbs tour stiff. Like a 5.7 to a 6.2 frequency softer.
Ok so what would you say will perform similarly to KBS Tour and not feel anything like KBS Tour?
So I bought a PSI Tour 6 iron with Modus 120 xstiff just to play around with. I took it to the range to compare to my i200 with KBS Tour stiff. So the Modus feels great. I think kick-wise the Modus and KBS feel like they're doing the same thing only the balance points are different. The KBS feels like all the weight is under the hands. The Modus feels more like the weight is mid-way down the shaft, which surprised me because I expected to feel it all at the tip (hey now!). The Modus feels like it's flowing in my swing just right. Sometimes the KBS can feel a bit early/late. Along those lines, the dispersion with the Modus is much tighter than the KBS...but the KBS has a higher peak. It's hard to guess at how much higher but the Modus takes a more piercing path to its apex. I also could not tell the difference in carry distance between the two. They were certainly similar.
I wish the the Modus had the lower balance point that I expected. My 712u 3 iron with Dynamic Gold really has the feel that I like in terms of balance point, but I also like the traj of KBS/Modus. Maybe I'll split the difference and install the Project X (Rifle) that I have sitting around. Or just leave it as is. Really I'm just surprised by how similar KBS Tour and Modus are. I'm glad that I did a $40 experiment in buying that iron to try the Modus and didn't just go balls in on a full set. I'm going to keep working with it to decide if the dispersion is different enough to justify a change but for now I think they're too similar to be worth the money or time.
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